Eighty-year-old Professor of
Economics and former Commissioner for Planning and Budget in Bayelsa
State, Prof. Gesiye Angaye, talks about his career with SIMON UTEBOR
Tell us about yourself.
I am Gesiye Angaye. I was born at
Okoloba, Sabagreia in Kolokuma/Opokuma Local Government Area of Bayelsa
State on February 18, 1936. My parents were late Chief Tombeberegha
Angaye and the late Mrs. Indoni Angaye.
How did you know your date of birth?
My parents documented my birth date. I
lost my father at the age of four. I did not know my father too well. It
was my stepfather, that later showed me my birth certificate when I was
older. My stepfather, who is the first of my father’s siblings, married
my mother according to tradition. I was brought up by my stepfather,
Mr. Officer Angaye.
How was it like growing up without your father?
There were a lot of challenges. Growing
up without a father was not an easy thing. But luckily, my mother was
capable and my stepfather also assisted her. My mother was a hardworking
woman and she took good care of me when I was young. She trained me up
to secondary school level. She and my stepfather were able to do that.
Even though I lost my father at the age of four, I enjoyed my childhood.
Which schools did you attend?
After studying up to Standard Four at
St. Peters Primary School in Okoloba, Sabagreia, I went to St. Stephen’s
School in Odi where I read Standard Five and Six and earned a primary
school leaving certificate in 1950. After that, I attended a Teachers’
Training College. I obtained Teacher’s Grade 3 and Grade 2 certificates
and started teaching. While I was teaching, I was able to obtain
Ordinary and Advanced level certificates. Thereafter, I went to the
nation’s premier university, the University of Ibadan, where I bagged a
Bachelor of Science degree in Economics.
After that, I travelled to the United
States of America for further studies. There, I studied for a master’s
degree and PhD at the University of Pittsburg.
Where did you work after your study?
I have been a teacher all my life. It
started in 1950 when I completed primary education. I became a primary
school teacher in 1951. After university education, I returned to the
University of Ibadan to work for three years from 1971 to 1973. And
since then, I have been teaching. I first came to Rivers State, where I
taught at the then College of Arts and Science for some years. From
there, I moved to the University of Port Harcourt, Rivers State. Later, I
went to the College of Education and taught there for many years till I
retired in 2003. Even after retirement, I was not tired. I am still a
lecturer at the Niger Delta University, Amassoma, Bayelsa State.
What do you teach there?
I teach economics. I studied Economics
for my first and second degrees. I also earned a PhD in Economics and
became a Professor of Economics.
What can you recollect about the country before Independence?
Before Independence, Nigeria was a
peaceful nation. In fact, we, who are old enough to talk about the
country’s past and present, will say Nigeria was golden before
independence. We grew up with houses that had no iron or front doors.
Now, we have become prisoners in our own houses. We are caged in. When
we were growing up before 1960, there were no armed robbers and
kidnappers. Life was peaceful and simple. But after independence,
everybody wanted to make money within a short time and politics came.
People began to assassinate political opponents and others. Corruption
crept in. I will say before independence, life was peaceful, secure and
people lived happily as brothers and sisters.
Do you wish Nigeria did not get her independence in 1960?
The independence was not bad. It is not
the independence that caused all these problems. It is the way we took
politics and money. Why should we be under the British for life?
Independence brought good things; we became independent and ruled
ourselves, but the rulers who took over from the British did not do well
and that is why we are having many problems.
When would you say Nigeria’s problems started?
The problem of Nigeria started after the
first military coup of 1966. When the military took over, things
started to fall apart. They also wanted to taste money. Instead of
defending the nation, they desired to be millionaires and billionaires.
What can Nigeria do to get out of its current economic quagmire?
First, we have to elect people who are
truly ready to rule the country selflessly because without good rulers,
nothing will work. Then, the structure of the country should be looked
into. If the structure is bad, even the rulers will have problems. We
have to change the structure of Nigeria by restructuring it.
States should be responsible for the
generation of revenues in their own states and pay taxes to the Federal
Government to sustain federal establishments. It is because of this
unitary situation that governors and commissioners do not want to work.
But if we restructure the country and allow the states to control their
own resources, every state will be struggling to produce, earn revenue
and develop. When the states are developing, the country will develop
too.
How many children do you have?
I have seven children; four boys and
three girls. They are all doing well. They are all graduates. As an
academic, I trained all my children to graduate and postgraduate levels.
Among them, there are two medical doctors and one academic doctor.
When did you marry?
I got married at the age of 18 to Mrs.
Alice Angaye (nee Ogiri) of Igbedi town on April 28, 1954. I met her
when I was a primary school teacher at Igbedi in 1953.
Why did you marry so early?
There was always pressure from parents
to get married as early as possible and produce as many children as God
gives. We did only a traditional wedding. My wife was a loving,
devoted, faithful and hard-working woman and we lived happily together
for the first few years of our marriage.
But after some years, due to some
issues, the marriage did not work and we separated. I got remarried to
Mrs. Betty Angaye (nee Youdubagha) in 1973. She is a faithful, loving,
kind, hard-working and a devoted Christian. Her constant and continuous
prayers converted me to a committed, convinced, liberal and tolerant
Christian.
What led to the end of your first marriage?
I think it was because I married too
early. I married immediately after I completed Standard Six. I later got
a scholarship to study in the US and my wife joined me. She stayed with
me for some months in the US. When she came back to Nigeria, the
marriage ended.
Why did it end like that?
By then, I was studying in the US and I
was also catering for my wife with my meagre earnings. I just told her
that we could separate and we did.
What kind of food and drinks do you like?
I do not take any alcoholic drinks. I only take soft drinks. Nowadays, I take water often.
What is the secret of your good health at 80?
The secret of my good health is God.
With God, everything is possible. My mother died at 93 and I really
loved her. She used to tell me that, ‘As you love me, you will live long
and your children will love you too.’ And really, my children love me
because I loved my mother.
What are you most fulfilled about in life?
I am fulfilled because I have risen to
the top of my profession. In teaching career, professorship is the
highest achievement one can attain. I am happy, not because I am above
80 years, I am happy because I am healthy. At 80, if I lie on my sick
bed, you will not be interviewing me. It is all through the grace of
God, not by my power. We have all done the forbidden things we should
not have done, but through the grace of God, I am alive and happy. I am
also fulfilled because I have good children and enough material means to
sustain me till the end of my life.
Have you served in any public office?
Yes, I was a Commissioner for Budget and
Planning in Bayelsa State. I was Chairman of Rivers State Broadcasting
Corporation, Port Harcourt and Chairman of Nigeria Economic Society,
Rivers State chapter, among others.
How would you describe the standard of education now?
There are times people use the failure
rate in the West African Examinations Council and the National
Examinations Council to measure standard. They said the standard of
education has fallen. To me, there are different ways of looking at the
standard of education. In certain areas they say the standard of
education has fallen when they see a primary school leaver or a
university graduate who cannot write or speak good English. If one
examines what children know now regarding computer, one can say that the
standard of education has risen in some aspects while it has fallen in
other aspects. People should aim at acquiring knowledge. Parents and
children should not rely on cheating to get certificates. Government
should also provide the needed facilities for quality education. They
should pay teachers promptly. How can one get good education when
teachers are not paid? Many people are abandoning teaching because
salaries are not paid promptly. Government should provide the needed
infrastructure and pay teachers regularly to improve good learning and
teaching.
What is your advice to married couples?
There is no perfect marriage. Every
marriage requires tolerance, perseverance, endurance, love and the fear
of God. If one loves God, fears Him and loves one’s wife, no matter the
problems, one will be able to surmount any problem.
Marriage is love. It is give and take and couples must live with the fear of God always.
Do you have any regrets?
I cannot think of anything I could have
wished to do differently. I became a teacher not by choice but because
it was the profession available to me at the time. And luckily, I became
interested in the teaching profession and it is the job I have been
doing almost all my life.
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